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PostPosted: April 28th, 2009, 10:18 am 
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COMPLAINT ABOUT Cantara Christopher / cantaraville / cantaraville.com / cantarabooks / cantarabooks.com

DO YOU THINK THIS PUBLISHER HAS A BIG HEAD? WE DO!

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Subject: COMPLAINT about Cantara Christopher / cantaraville / cantaraville.com / cantarabooks / cantarabooks.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:23:51 -0400
To: cantarabooks@gmail.com, herself@cantarachristopher.com

April 24, 2009

Cantara Christopher, Editor and Publisher - herself@cantarachristopher.com
Michael Matheny, Senior Editor / domestic partner of Editor/Publisher -
cantarabooks@gmail.com
cantaraville / cantaraville.com
cantarabooks / cantarabooks.com / cantarachristopher.com
204 East 11th Street #171
New York, NY 10003
P(917)674-7560
F(866)365-4874

WritersWeekly.com has received a complaint about:
Cantara Christopher / cantaraville / cantaraville.com / cantarabooks /
cantarabooks.com

WritersWeekly.com is a publication that publishes information for
and about freelance writers. The publication is the
largest-circulation freelance writing ezine in the world.

As part of that information, WritersWeekly.com publishes a Warnings
section on its website and in its newsletter. This warning section
contains reports about publications that are unprofessional in
dealing with writers, haven't paid writers money that is owed to
them, who have not abided by their contracts, or who have unfair
contract terms. These reports are used by WritersWeekly.com's
subscribers
to decide which publications they should and should not work with.

Your firm has been submitted to us for inclusion in the
WritersWeekly.com Whispers and Warnings section.

Step one of our investigation of this report is to gather all
relevant correspondence between your publication and the person
submitting the complaint so that we can piece together that person's
side of the story. Step one of our investigation has been completed.

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THE COMPLAINT
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Our reader alleges you sent a deeply insulting, threatening and
unprofessional email simply because the author hesitated at your
non-paying contract offer.

See complete allegation under my signature.

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WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
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The second step in our investigation is to send this communication
to your firm to get its side of the story. If you have evidence
disputing these allegations, or would like to make your own
statement about these allegations for publication in our report, please
email angela - at - writersweekly.com within two business days.

***All correspondence for our investigations must be in writing and
is subject to publication.***

If you do owe this person money, we strongly suggest you read
this article before responding:
http://www.writersweekly.com/the_latest ... 32006.html

Our report on your firm is scheduled for inclusion in our
publication next Wednesday, though it may appear in our Whispers and
Warnings forum before that time.

If there is no response to these allegations, WritersWeekly.com will
still publish this complaint, but our readers will not be able to
read your side of the story.

We appreciate your prompt response in this matter.

Angela Hoy
Publisher
WritersWeekly.com

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ALLEGATION
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We'll make it easy for you - we'll just withdraw your poetry submission.

Let me give you a word of advice: If you're going to be sending out
your work with the intent of getting it published, it's best not to
insult editors by informing them that you will "mull over" an
acceptance. Editors talk to other editors, word gets around.

In the past two years we've published Cantaraville we've gotten over a
thousand submissions from writers all over the world, but we have
NEVER before been asked about remuneration. No self-respecting writer
who is serious about a career at your stage would consider payment to
be more important than inclusion in a prestige publication like ours.
Cantaraville is read by literary reviewers, members of the National
Book Critics Circle, New York literary agents and Hollywood producers,
all of whom are personal friends and acquaintances.

As for your proposed novella submission, evidently you didn't read our
guidelines. We're looking to acquire works to publish as ebooks, and
we want to see entire manuscripts, not outlines. And we certainly
aren't going to discuss illustrations, much less paying for
illustrations, before even seeing a manuscript. No editor would do
that - it's insulting for you to bring it up in the first place.

Now that we've had a taste of you and your work we have one request:
Go elsewhere.

Cantara Christopher
Owner & Publisher
CANTARAVILLE | CANTARABOOKS

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PUBLISHER RESPONDS

CANTARABOOKS wrote:
Dear Ms Hoy -

Thank you for your interest in this matter. On Wednesday, April 15, [IK]
(name removed by WritersWeekly), who writes under the pen name
of [IK] , sent us five poems for consideration. Although they were
not sent in the format we
request in our guidelines [http://cantaraville.com], we nevertheless read
them. As we happened to have one slot open in an upcoming issue and his
poems were deemed good enough for inclusion, we accepted them.

- On Friday, Apr 17, [IK] wrote back: Thanks for the acceptance. I'll have
to mull it over since this is without remuneration.

Our payment policy--one author's copy--is stated clearly in our guidelines
and in the Author-Publisher Agreement we email an author upon acceptance of
his work. This agreement is an informal, unsigned agreement, more of an
acknowledgment that a relationship has started with the author.

In the body of this same email, he then went on to include an unsolicited
1200-word pitch to our small press, Cantarabooks [http://cantarabooks.com}
for his translation of a novella by the minor early 20th-century Russian
author, Mikhail P. Artsybashev, which ended:

- If you are to have it as a paperback, I am more than certain that at least
300 U.S. libraries with Russian literature interest, plus college libraries,
would be potential buyers.

In our guidelines for Cantarabooks, we state in the first paragraph: "At the
moment we are open only to unsolicited submissions of novellas, story
collections or literary reportage 20-30,000 words for our ebook series of
new writing in English." Not proposals--full manuscripts.

NINE MINUTES LATER, before we even had a chance to answer his previous
email, [IK] sent us another email:

- I can also have my illustrator supply some superlative pictures for this
novella. But it will cost some.

We state clearly in our guidelines, "No photos or illustrations, please."

That was the last straw. It was clear that the submitter of this unsolicited
material had no interest in being published in Cantarabooks/Cantaraville
other than to get remunerative work for himself and his "illustrator". Since
that is not what we are in business for--our aims are clearly stated on our
website--his importuning was taken as an insult.

On April 23 I wrote him the email you quote in its entirety as the source of
his complaint, to which he replied the same day:

- Didn't know that some e-publishers are so touchy, but thanks for your
advice. Best of successes to you and your publication. PS: Indeed, word
will get around and writers do have some rights as well...

I'm assuming from that last intimation he felt driven to contact you to help
him get some sort of redress. But in our opinion there's nothing here that
needs redressing.

Sincerely,
- Cantara

Cantara Christopher
Owner & Publisher
CANTARABOOKS
CANTARAVILLE

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WRITERSWEEKLY RESPONDS

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: COMPLAINT about Cantara Christopher / cantaraville / cantaraville.com / cantarabooks / cantarabooks.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:57 -0400
To: CANTARABOOKS <cantarabooks@gmail.com>

Hi Cantara,

Despite the emails you received from the writer, which were all friendly
and professional, and despite what appears to be your obvious
misunderstanding of his intent, your email to him was, in our opinion,
over-the-top unprofessional - downright mean in fact.

We will be issuing a warning about your firm.

Angela Hoy
WritersWeekly.com

~~~~~

PUBLISHER RESPONDS

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: COMPLAINT about Cantara Christopher / cantaraville / cantaraville.com / cantarabooks / cantarabooks.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:11:32 -0400
From: CANTARABOOKS <cantarabooks@gmail.com>

Angela -

A warning on your website has absolutely no impact on the work we're trying
to do.

- Cantara

~~~~~

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PUBLISHER'S BEHAVIOR, READERS? Send your comments to: angela@writersweekly.com


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PostPosted: April 29th, 2009, 1:22 pm 
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READER COMMENTS

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Subject: Cantara
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:12:23 -0700
From: RR

Mikhail P. Artsybashev is a minor early 20th-century Russian author?
The wonder is that any writer with any knowledge of international
literature would take a publisher exhibiting this kind of ignorance
seriously. Run, do not walk away from this idiot!

A major Naturalist, and a major influence on several Nobelists,
notably Du Gard, Artsybashev is far from "minor." Sanin was certainly
a major book and his later work is not insubstantial. Yes he was a
major anti-Communist and the Soviets slandered him for years, but
minor? Really. This jerk is typical of the modern American publisher,
pig ignorant and publishing swill.

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Subject: Cantara
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:27:54 -0400
From: BS

What editor at a "prestige" publication takes the time to count the minutes
that lapse between emails? I agree that Cantara's response was
unprofessional, and Cantara should simply have requested the author review
the guidelines and not A) read the unsolicited email and B) complain that
he/she read it. Yes it's mean and unprofessional, and yes the publisher has
a big head. but it's really kind of a "sticks and stones" thing - Cantara is
obviously a jerk and really not worth the time it would take to engage in
further discussion or argument. I think all should make a mental note and
then move on.

Beth Stewart
Freelance Writer


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PostPosted: April 30th, 2009, 7:22 pm 
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Subject: Cantara
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:42:09 -0700
From: Cheryl C.

Hi, Angela,

This person has the stench of "nonprofessional", which unfortunately, is
typical of many publishers today who mistake professional writers for those
who will write just to see their name in print. Although it's true that most
writers write because they're driven to it, many of us also write from the
wallet as well as our hearts. It's what many of us do for a *living*. Maybe
the writer in this case didn't read the guidelines carefully enough, but
that certainly didn't warrant the mean response. I have also gotten
incredibly rude rejections from publishers for being so bold as to ask about
pay.

I fear that Cantara may be right; a warning here may not affect her
operations. However, if it can put even a little dent in her ego, or save
an inexperienced writer some trouble, it will have succeeded.

Thanks for being here for us,
Cheryl

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Subject: re: Cantara
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pamela

Oh my goodness, Angela! That Cantara person's responses to you and the writer were pathetic. Sounds as if she's not only got a chip on her shoulder and a superiority complex, but also waaay too much time on her hands.

Reading her messages reminded me of a quote from Dr. Wayne Dyer: "People who go around looking for reasons to be offended are rarely disappointed!"

Beware Cantara! Yikes!

Pamela


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PostPosted: May 5th, 2009, 2:17 pm 
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ANOTHER READER COMMENT

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Subject: Cantarabooks
Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:50:50 -0400
From: Lori

Hi Angela,

What strikes me in this entire exchange is how the company considers paying
its writers to be offensive. The real offense is the chastising the writer
gets for reconsidering the offer instead of salivating over a raw deal. If
the writer really wants nothing more than exposure, he can put up a website
and get that without the publisher making money off his labors. I find it
criminal that there are companies out there with the impression that writers
at any stage of their careers are expected to give away their talents. It's
absurd. Are they giving away publications since they've been in business
only two years? I don't think so. If they cannot treat their writers with
the same set of rules they hold for themselves, they can write their own
poems. It's pretty obvious to me that professionalism isn't something that
holds any value with this publisher. The writer is better off without an
association with someone who would act this way or get so livid over
something that is part of normal business practices.

I found it interesting also that the publisher implied the writer's work
wasn't up to par when in fact she'd accepted it already, and not "because
there was space." That's bull. She accepted it because it was good and it
was, in her mind, a freebie. The moment he put value on his work, she felt
the need to pull out the emotional games and attempt to belittle him.
Childish.

Lori W.


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PostPosted: June 12th, 2009, 4:10 pm 
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I, uh, don't even know WHAT to say about this:

http://gawker.com/5288291/literary-edit ... yllenhaals


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PostPosted: June 17th, 2009, 2:54 pm 
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READER'S COMMENTS

What editor at a "prestige" publication takes the time to count the minutes
that lapse between emails? I agree that Cantara's response was
unprofessional, and Cantara should simply have requested the author review
the guidelines and not A) read the unsolicited email and B) complain that
he/she read it. Yes it's mean and unprofessional, and yes the publisher has
a big head. but it's really kind of a "sticks and stones" thing - Cantara is
obviously a jerk and really not worth the time it would take to engage in
further discussion or argument. I think all should make a mental note and
then move on.

Beth


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